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yegnold
4th May 2004, 7:32 PM
These are some of the things that make stories great.
1.screenshots
2.asking people their views and getting them involved
3.dont buy the same players all the time e.g.porhallsson,osskarsson,kristjansson
4.give detail and not just updates
5.make it humourus
6.put some colour in
thanks to MUTU04 off my site for posting this:cool:
airnova2112
4th May 2004, 11:08 PM
I'll keep that in mind...
deej
6th May 2004, 9:19 PM
This is getting a bump, and may become a sticky if you think it's needed.
yegnold
7th May 2004, 6:31 PM
yeah i think it should be sticky deej ;)
LUFC_Boy
7th May 2004, 6:52 PM
yes it should as it sure helped me with my storys
Fusion
7th May 2004, 9:00 PM
I got some more points that could be included:
- Don't write very short stories, they lack depth and may lose the interest of the reader inadvertently.
- Try to cut down on spelling and grammatical mistakes, as these make difficult reading, and again, the reader may lose interest. This also includes any traces of 'txt talk' in your stories ;)
- Vary your writing style, of course, maintain consistency within the same story - however in different stories, an alternate aspect or mood, tone, point of view may be increasingly interesting.
Spitfire
8th May 2004, 6:39 AM
Definately deej. Make this a sticky ASAP. Some good tips in here. Let me emphasise:
- Please dont just type in a summary of your past 4 seasons getting a conference side up to the prem in one post of 200 words. Make it a story - an epic.
-If you make a commitment to starting a story, make sure you continue it.
Kukev31
8th May 2004, 8:10 PM
How do you put screenshots into your stories.
yegnold
8th May 2004, 8:38 PM
you cant. however you can upload your screens to an image host such as this one:
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FREE Image Hosting (10MB) at ManageFootball.com
To post screenshots, etc. you will need a free hosting account, and you can get one from http://www.managefootball.com, for a direct link, go here: http://free.managefootball.com/imagehosting.
You get 10MB space (which means you can fit about 100 100KB images) and you can put as many images as you can on there, as long as the total file size is under 10MB.
There is a maximum file size for uploads of 250KB which shouldn't be a problem for screenshots.
How to take a screenshot:
- To find out how to take a screenshot, Click Here for a tutorial!
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and post the URL of the image to here
yegnold
8th May 2004, 8:40 PM
(the CLICK HERE FOR A TUTORIAL doesnt work :silent:)
ah well
in CM, press PRINT SCREEN, go into paint, paste and then SAVE AS a JPEG. then upload it to the image host
lleidafan
23rd May 2004, 10:26 AM
I know the links to the stories I'm posting here are from another board... but this is a selection if SI:CMS at it's finest... be sure to browse them for inspiration, they are all good and some of them just superb:
Ever thought about building a team with your U19's? (http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=97319217&m=599107191) Well, PM7 did and had some kind of success with it...
A classic epic tale brought to you by Mr.Dixie Flatline (http://community.sigames.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=21019056&f=97319217&m=2871900932)
And here's a selection of old classy threads made by pooscalery at CMStories:
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1358.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1268.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1137.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1975.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1135.html.
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1560.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1298.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1980.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1812.html
http://www.cmstories.net/archives/stories/1307.html
I really hope you enjoy those and take profit from their reading ;) Oh, and sorry for the long post...
(If any mod feels this in unappropiate or that it shouldn't be here just delete the post... I thought I'd give you some food for thought)
IbroxLegend
23rd May 2004, 10:41 AM
I was in the process of creating a great story as spitfire would agree with me there but cm5 didn't agree with me and wouldn't let me put rangers into the EPL supposdely because the club I changed them with (wolves) were extinct!
I mean wtf ? are they serious ? So in the end it didn't happen much to me dissapointment.
lleidafan
23rd May 2004, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by IbroxLegend
I was in the process of creating a great story as spitfire would agree with me there but cm5 didn't agree with me and wouldn't let me put rangers into the EPL supposdely because the club I changed them with (wolves) were extinct!
I mean wtf ? are they serious ? So in the end it didn't happen much to me dissapointment.
You lucky man got to play the new game before anyone did :mad: :D ;)
If it's not CM5 but CM03/04 that you are talking about I'd suggest you go to editing forum to ask about the chances of doing what you want to do as I'm complete crap when it comes to editing (We could say that I'm allergic to them :stickout )
IbroxLegend
23rd May 2004, 11:05 AM
ah yeah cm0304 my bad!
i dont know how it happened i tried everything but it didn't work. I just need an .edt file with the SWAP TEAMS thingy, that's all I need I am sure someone has it.
deej
24th May 2004, 11:49 AM
Cheers for the links, lleidafan. Anything that promotes story writing is OK. I'll see if I can pull up some gems.
fozzythesnowman
28th July 2004, 11:08 AM
i got some things to add to the good story writing list.
-try to make the story as realistic as possible, it gets noticed.
-Use things that you would expect to see in real life, they too make a real difference
this has been proven in the CM Wanderers thread....
chris999
22nd October 2004, 2:28 PM
Originally posted by fozzythesnowman
-try to make the story as realistic as possible, it gets noticed.
I agree, if someone becomes a manager of a big club you should have a good explanation on how you got the job. A big club such as Man U are not going to replace their 50 something year old manager who has a magificent cv, won loads of trophies and have probably managed a team in Europe with some twit who's been a scout for a few months.
sir_sprogenbogen88
26th October 2004, 1:10 PM
Well i'm writing a man u story but i'm not sure whether i should retire from the club because people say that man u stories are boring?
deej
27th October 2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by sir_sprogenbogen88
Well i'm writing a man u story but i'm not sure whether i should retire from the club because people say that man u stories are boring?
It's not who the team is that makes all the difference, it's the actual story. Juliet Bravo's Barcelona is a great example of a big team story.
i hope you die ironically
28th October 2004, 7:31 PM
What makes a story good about CM is the same as what makes a story good in a novel. It has to be interesting, readable and grab the reader and keep him reading.
In addition here it woud need to be regularly - not too fast or people give up or miss bits, not too slow initially or people won't wait - and updated in chunks that are neither too big nor too small.
Spav
3rd November 2004, 2:14 AM
Originally posted by sir_sprogenbogen88
Well i'm writing a man u story but i'm not sure whether i should retire from the club because people say that man u stories are boring?
If this is a reference to my comments about your story, then you've taken it all the wrong way. Many people write Man Utd stories beacuse they are a popular team to manage. They buy all the usual wonderkids and then write a boring story where they say we beat so-and-so 5-0 and so-and-so 6-0, etc and don't put in any details.
Your story sir_sprogenbogen88 Man United Story (http://www.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6066) on the other hand has plenty of detail and lot of incidents to keep the readers interested. So please don't turn a jokey comment of mine into a criticism of your story because it couldn't be further from the truth.
Please keep writing as you are very good at it.
champs_56
20th March 2005, 4:52 AM
I posted it before but I am doing this again because it's an order from deej. Here is the link as a proof: http://www.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21660&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
I used a proof so that no one can go against me. I'm sick of this hatred shown towards me.
Necessary Tips:
1.Be Realistic: Being real means not to buy Ronaldo when you are managing Teamsworth .
2.Be Dramatical: Include as many twists in your story as possible. Example: “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
3. Don’t make any mess and try to make as less mistake as possible. Example of mess:
(Sorry bout the corny title...)
( I selected Holland, and England + Conference, Italy, France and Spain in the background)
[FONT=century gothic]"People always say think know it better then the managers...but there is a reason they're never given a chance. Hopefully...there is a reason I was given a chance..."
“Of mice and Managers” by “PJHoutman”
4.Be more Creative: Don’t just write a story, write it from the deep of your heart.
5.Take your time: Don’t go like this “I had a phone, I accepted the contract, I bought Diego from Porto, I won the Premier League”! No! Take your time! Nobody is killing you if you don’t to it quickly.
6.Try to use a weaker team cause it makes your story more interesting.
7.Try to describe the environment whenever you have a chance. Example:
Down at Aldershot, the sun was blazing, but a light wind took the edge off the heat. I kept the same team as before, except for replacing Andy Scott, who hadn't quite recovered from his knock, with Dave Stott. “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
8.Don’t make your team always the lucky one. Going through a series of tragedies makes your story more interesting. Example: “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
Optional Tips:
1.Make your readers read the next episode. Example:
Suddenly something happened that was unexpected. Brown,"The Powerhouse",was out with a hamstring, for 3 months! I was so depressed that I spent one sleepless night. I appointed my scout in finding someone as a substitute to Browny. And guess what? I had a really good news..... “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
2.Have a Villain. Example: Pearson in “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
3.Sometimes…..Be emotional:
The day finally came when I first went to the stadium, not as a player but as a manager! I was so happy that tears of happiness rolled down my eyes. “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
4.Use dates. Example:
Monday 23rd February
Today I have been appointed manager of Coca Cola Championship side Sheffield United. This is my first job in management, to start out at United is a great honour and I intend to take the club forward as soon as possible.
“CMO: Life at Bramall Lane. Level 1 World 17” by “Hallam_Latic”
5.Use Nicknames: “Tricky” from “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
Brown,"The Powerhouse" from “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
I really love the CM story forum and I hope my tips will help to improve quality of the stories. I expect it to be a great help to newcomers and struggling storywriters.
Lets Kick Hatred Out Of The CM Forums
deej
21st March 2005, 9:58 PM
Thanks for reposting that here champs. :thup:
champs_56
21st March 2005, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by deej
Thanks for reposting that here champs. :thup:
U R welcome.
deej
5th May 2005, 5:14 PM
Terms of endearment for comments on stories. :thup:
Originally posted by deej
IGFLITO!
(I'm Getting Funny Looks In The Office)
Usually posted after spraying beverage across screen and keyboard, upon reading a hilarious comment.
KUTGW
As stated before, it is Keep Up The Good Work, but the "Good" part of the formula is interchangable, and can be replaced at a whim with any number of alternatives, including but not limited to: KUTAMW! (Antelope Molesting), KUTCAW! (Chartered Accountancy) and KUTHTSOYDETACOHCATLOHWW! (Hearing The Screams Of Your Defeated Enemy, The Anguished Cries Of His Children And The Lamentation Of His Women).
SteeSafc
6th May 2005, 6:13 PM
Originally posted by champs_56
I posted it before but I am doing this again because it's an order from deej. Here is the link as a proof: http://www.championshipmanager.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21660&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
I used a proof so that no one can go against me. I'm sick of this hatred shown towards me.
Necessary Tips:
1.Be Realistic: Being real means not to buy Ronaldo when you are managing Teamsworth .
2.Be Dramatical: Include as many twists in your story as possible. Example: “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
3. Don’t make any mess and try to make as less mistake as possible. Example of mess:
(Sorry bout the corny title...)
( I selected Holland, and England + Conference, Italy, France and Spain in the background)
[FONT=century gothic]"People always say think know it better then the managers...but there is a reason they're never given a chance. Hopefully...there is a reason I was given a chance..."
“Of mice and Managers” by “PJHoutman”
4.Be more Creative: Don’t just write a story, write it from the deep of your heart.
5.Take your time: Don’t go like this “I had a phone, I accepted the contract, I bought Diego from Porto, I won the Premier League”! No! Take your time! Nobody is killing you if you don’t to it quickly.
6.Try to use a weaker team cause it makes your story more interesting.
7.Try to describe the environment whenever you have a chance. Example:
Down at Aldershot, the sun was blazing, but a light wind took the edge off the heat. I kept the same team as before, except for replacing Andy Scott, who hadn't quite recovered from his knock, with Dave Stott. “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
8.Don’t make your team always the lucky one. Going through a series of tragedies makes your story more interesting. Example: “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
Optional Tips:
1.Make your readers read the next episode. Example:
Suddenly something happened that was unexpected. Brown,"The Powerhouse",was out with a hamstring, for 3 months! I was so depressed that I spent one sleepless night. I appointed my scout in finding someone as a substitute to Browny. And guess what? I had a really good news..... “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
2.Have a Villain. Example: Pearson in “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
3.Sometimes…..Be emotional:
The day finally came when I first went to the stadium, not as a player but as a manager! I was so happy that tears of happiness rolled down my eyes. “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
4.Use dates. Example:
Monday 23rd February
Today I have been appointed manager of Coca Cola Championship side Sheffield United. This is my first job in management, to start out at United is a great honour and I intend to take the club forward as soon as possible.
“CMO: Life at Bramall Lane. Level 1 World 17” by “Hallam_Latic”
5.Use Nicknames: “Tricky” from “The Journeymen” by “Cartoon”.
Brown,"The Powerhouse" from “Rise of the blades” by “Champs_56”
I really love the CM story forum and I hope my tips will help to improve quality of the stories. I expect it to be a great help to newcomers and struggling storywriters.
Lets Kick Hatred Out Of The CM Forums
You say try to include twists, its not your fault if the game is normal and you don't get beat off the bottom side 5-0.
I don't agree with putting a weaker side out either, i aim to win every game i play on CM, regardless of competition. (not that it always goes to plan:D ;) )
PJHoutman
4th September 2005, 2:45 AM
Originally posted by SteeSafc
I don't agree with putting a weaker side out either, i aim to win every game i play on CM, regardless of competition. (not that it always goes to plan:D ;) )
I think he means a lower league team ;)
Beefy03
5th September 2006, 1:51 PM
Im inspired. When I get home later this week, Im off to start my story!
Wizkid
10th November 2007, 8:43 PM
This is a very good thread. :thumup:
I started to write a story on CM03/04 earlier, I was playing as Gretna in the 3rd division of Scotland. I had a poor pre-season so I thought I would give up but then I'm about 5 games into the season, won all of my games apart from one. Might just start it again.
JonChampMan
26th May 2009, 10:33 PM
My god this is a dead thread.
I was just looking over it and thought I might add a few ideas that might be more relevant nowadays.
1) Have persepctive - Most people on this forum seem to be able to write a good opening paragraph, but then the story trundels away - look at the bigger picture.
2) Don't take on more than you can handle - I think that the reason most stories end before they get started on this forum is because people start out with a big idea about writing an epic story, but just don't have the time or will to see it through.
3) Progress your story - I've read lots of stories that make a big fuss about pre-season, the opening of a new season, etc. and then they don't know where to go from there. You've got to think of short, snappy (interesting) paragraphs that keep the reader entertained. You can use experiences from real world press - newspapers, television, radio. But don't forget that the main subject matter is playing football matches, if it helps, get a notepad and write down if you were happy, annoyed, enraged, etc by your teams performance and why.
4) Match Reports - I'm not a big fan of match reports, but when written well they can really improve a story.
5) Use the game for references - When I'm writing my stories I always try and reference CM 2008 to add plausibility. For example, you don't know who the manager of Ipswich Town - look it up - there you go - Jim Magilton - "I kicked Jim Magilton's sides arse today"
There are many, many more ways to improve the way people tell stories, try and look at it from a unique perspective, not just as a manager; as a fan, news reporter, board member, player, retired manager, etc.
There are a multitude of different ways to tell your story and a lot of CM forum members who would enjoy reading your contributions.
If you enjoy writing stories and playing CM, then now is your chance to showcase your talents.
I hope their are some guys who will take up this challenge. :)
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