Jack Collison

[J-master1]

over rated but correct me if im wrong! His stats are extremely high!

[affliction]

Screenshot of his stats? I've seen him play a fair amount, very talented kid, lots of potential to be a decent standard of Premiership player.

[TacticalGenius]

Your opinion doesn't count for much given your unreasoned debate in the other thread...

[JAStewart]

In 2014 and playing for Marseille on my game.

[Utopia]

I just break my bank to sign him for 13million Pound sterling for my triple winning Portsmouth in 2nd season.

So far so good.
Better than O'Hara that set me thinking of signing after his first half season on-loan.

Time will tell if he is over-rated or worthwhile.
If you compare it to game, actually CM/FM/TCM/FIFAM all create some wonderkids in their version which in RL, it's actually very lousy.

Take F. Adu as example. This wonderkid now playing in smaller european club, after trial with the big boy like MU etc but unable to secure contract.

Collision could be the next game-generated wonderkid.

[Utopia]

Originally Posted by JAStewart

In 2014 and playing for Marseille on my game.

His stats already like this in 2010, with sep data, oct update.

[john_M_F_C]

Collison looks like he will be a top class midfielder, he's not getting all the press like say a Jackwilshire or an O'Hara even because he's Welsh.

[albionalex]

Originally Posted by J-master1

over rated but correct me if im wrong! His stats are extremely high!

They are about right tbh.

[Chris Jones]

Looking at your screenshot he is definitely well over-rated at the present time.

I will be amending him today, so he will look a lot more realistic for the next update.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

[albionalex]

Originally Posted by Chris Jones

Looking at your screenshot he is definitely well over-rated at the present time.

I will be amending him today, so he will look a lot more realistic for the next update.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

I don't think his stas are over the top. Seeing as that is his game in 2014 he could have become a world star.

[harmoniesdaddy]

TBH AlbionAlex has a point, Seeing that these are stats from five years from now, Its a good possiblity he could become that good.
The only thing I'd do would be to lower is P.A. by -5.

[Seftinho]

His current stats and CA are perfectly fine, he's not over-rated at all. Most technical are mid-high 60s or 70s, whilst most intelligence and physical stats are in the 70s. CA is 75. Which is about right for a regular Premiership starter. I would say the stats reflect his ability well.

His PA is 88 which might be a bit high, I'd say around 85 (but no lower).

[J-master1]

Originally Posted by Chris Jones

Looking at your screenshot he is definitely well over-rated at the present time.

I will be amending him today, so he will look a lot more realistic for the next update.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

don't mention it!

[Utopia]

Luckily those update will not affect my save game, else, i have to offload my 13million prospect to ensure the update will not make me losing money. LOL

[RegorTtenneb]

Originally Posted by Chris Jones

Looking at your screenshot he is definitely well over-rated at the present time.

I will be amending him today, so he will look a lot more realistic for the next update.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

Has John Bostock been fixed then?

[Utopia]

Originally Posted by RegorTtenneb

Has John Bostock been fixed then?

He is in my team too.

:<

[harmoniesdaddy]

Shouldn't issue's like this be left to the editor? Most of this thread is down to personal choice, So I'd leave to editor personally.

[Tonksy119]

Originally Posted by john_M_F_C

Collison looks like he will be a top class midfielder, he's not getting all the press like say a Jackwilshire or an O'Hara even because he's Welsh.

He's English just his grandfather is Welsh and he didn't think he could break into the England squad.

[TacticalGenius]

Collison is a great player with huge potential. Would LOVE to see him alongside Cesc at Arsenal IRL.

[riksdodgydeals]

I watch him week in week out and he is very good, not as good as in that screenshot but as the poster said that is in 5 years time!

[shwan]

Originally Posted by Utopia

His stats already like this in 2010, with sep data, oct update.

no his stats is not like that in 2010
he has far less reds and many greys
i bought him for UTD in my first season for 4.5m
if he end up like that... it gonna be great bargain

[Chris Jones]

Originally Posted by RegorTtenneb

Has John Bostock been fixed then?

Yeah. I personally looked at him myself, having seen him play for Crystal Palace first team and reserves on numerous occasions.

[Utopia]

Originally Posted by shwan

no his stats is not like that in 2010
he has far less reds and many greys
i bought him for UTD in my first season for 4.5m
if he end up like that... it gonna be great bargain

Sure will.
I snapped him up Jan 2011 for 13million pound sterling, and he bossing the midfield for me.
Trained him Bombed around and strecth the play and he is making key passing and tackling.

[shwan]

Originally Posted by Utopia

Sure will.
I snapped him up Jan 2011 for 13million pound sterling, and he bossing the midfield for me.
Trained him Bombed around and strecth the play and he is making key passing and tackling.

I thought I get him as club agreed the fee and i offered him what he asked in personal terms !! but he turned a chance to play in UTD preferring to go to Monaco !! guess I should had put him as first team regular may be !! but why he didn’t told me !! worst tried to sign him after joining Monaco (ok they wanted 12m now) !! but he has no interest on any offer from UTD even if I make him a key player !!

Yeahh with his stats, why not surprised he is bossing your mid
Sure will try to resign him again at next transfer deal !!

[Lotti]

Originally Posted by shwan

I thought I get him as club agreed the fee and i offered him what he asked in personal terms !! but he turned a chance to play in UTD preferring to go to Monaco !! guess I should had put him as first team regular may be !! but why he didn’t told me !! worst tried to sign him after joining Monaco (ok they wanted 12m now) !! but he has no interest on any offer from UTD even if I make him a key player !!

Yeahh with his stats, why not surprised he is bossing your mid
Sure will try to resign him again at next transfer deal !!

If he has only just signed for Monaco, you'll have to wait untill atleast the next transfer window to sign him, as far as i know players on this game never negotiate with another club if they have just signed a new contract.

[shwan]

Originally Posted by lotti

If he has only just signed for Monaco, you'll have to wait untill atleast the next transfer window to sign him, as far as i know players on this game never negotiate with another club if they have just signed a new contract.

well club accepted my 12m bid !! it was the player who said he is not interested in the negotiation screen !!
but i think you are correct !! as FA told Sol Campbell same thing that he can't move to a new club till next Jan.
but why the game didn’t bare me from making that approach? instead had the club accepted my bid just for player to refuse it :O

[affliction]

Because he would still have been allowed to join you had he accepted your contract, which he would never do due to only just joining Monaco. Nothing wrong with the game there, more the way you're going about signing players.

[Utopia]

Originally Posted by shwan

I thought I get him as club agreed the fee and i offered him what he asked in personal terms !! but he turned a chance to play in UTD preferring to go to Monaco !! guess I should had put him as first team regular may be !! but why he didn’t told me !! worst tried to sign him after joining Monaco (ok they wanted 12m now) !! but he has no interest on any offer from UTD even if I make him a key player !!

Yeahh with his stats, why not surprised he is bossing your mid
Sure will try to resign him again at next transfer deal !!

I believed that he feel the chances of first 11 at OT is limited due to the challenge he faced from Carrick, Anderson, Fletcher, etc.

I signed him for Portsmouth after i get those transfer budget by selling Tal Ben Haim to MU.
If you take a look at Portsmouth midfield after Jan 2010, It's very weak. Signing of Jack is key to my masterplan to rebuild Portsmouth.

[shwan]

fair enough
and yes as some UTD players (who are in loan) declared that they prefer to make their move permanent, as they seem were happy to play more regular at those clubs

But some others (guess majoirty) do want to join bigger club, more at young age, like Ramsey, UTD offered him to stay at Cardiff on loan to get more first team matches experience, but he opted to go to Arsenal, as they promised him to play many matches, and he rarely played at EPL and look still far from being a regular at Arsenal.. so why he joined Arsenal, many young players think they are the best (like IRL everyone think he is the smartest or know better) there are really few people who can look to the mirror and say ok, am not good enough to UTD let me pick another club where I can start regularly more at young age.. this is why clubs like UTD or Arsenal are packing those great young talents from around the world.
and in my case, I sold many players in Mid for UTD, Park, Scholes, Nani and carrick. but again i think it was my mistake as didn't want to give him a big regular statue so he don’t start demanding alot, so just went with default one, I was planning to use him as regular player anyway, so if this is why he turn down my offer, he should have said so, isn’t? as player IRL do ask for that, as they ask for wage and contract length, like Ramsey and Arsene, sure they discussed his statue in the team when he assured him he gonna be playing good amount of football in his first year !!

so I guess if a player want certain statue, he should say so while negotiating with me. And game should make us know that

[Utopia]

I like to rotate my first 11, thus, I can understand your stand which reluctant to give more player more assure status in team.

For me, as manager point of view, status is not important. Form is.
Even if a player is backup player, but he perform well, I'll still play him ahead of indispendable. Too bad that the computer player don't accept this.

[shwan]

Originally Posted by Utopia

I like to rotate my first 11, thus, I can understand your stand which reluctant to give more player more assure status in team.

For me, as manager point of view, status is not important. Form is.
Even if a player is backup player, but he perform well, I'll still play him ahead of indispendable. Too bad that the computer player don't accept this.

Yepp clubs need to rotate , and with heavy schedule UTD had, I though I can play him as defensive CM mid rotating with Fletcher or as RM

And sure agree statue is not important. And it is ok if a player with high statue gonna be upset if a player with low statue played over him, am sure this is the case too IRL.

What upset me, is if it is important to sign a player, he should tell us !! I can’t splash first team regular statue at all my new signings .. I noticed the game set it for players automatically, as once trying to sign one it gonna put his statue like key player or hot prospect automatically, so I guessed this is what he want

Then why choosing to go to France, normally player prefer to stay at home, why leaving West ham for Monaco? And snapping UTD offer? Ok he may not get first team opportunity but I really can give him all assurance especially with selling Park, scholes and carrick, but even if I bough that.. why accepting Monaco offer ? are they better than West Ham and worth leaving family and friends behind and risk been put in bench as different league mean different system and style of play?

I don’t know if it was in FM or FIFAM, but remember when a player prefer another club his agent call me and advice me to increase and improve my offer , and some times they were just bluffing as player preferred me but agent want to milk me more , so have to call their bluffs sometimes, and I liked this option, sound realistic, as I expect agents to do such tricks. But sometimes they tell me the true story and it help me landing my player.

[Utopia]

It's FIFAM.
I was playing FIFAM 2009 before this.

A couple of CT players snubbed my CL winning portsmouth for France club like Lyon, Marsaile.

Not suprise that he snub u for Monaco.

France a cheat. So BGS did well for forecast that. lolz.